Subaru's NEW Boxer Engine - The Science EXPLAINED

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    The Subaru WRX STI is getting a new engine in 2022 and its the engine out of an SUV? how can this 260hp FA24 from the Ascent become the 400hp busier of a boxer that will power the new JDM Rally bred beast? We break this block down to its basic parts and explain just how Subaru is gonna get more horsepower than they’ve ever given the STI out of this new platform. so stop in for an inside look at Subaru’s new FA24 Engine.

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Donut Media

What are your thoughts on the switch to the FA24? Should they put it in the BRZ?

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R P
R P

Isnt the new brz getting this same engine? Imagine being able to have a 400hp car at 2700lbs now thats whats i wanna hear

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DAVID RESPECT
DAVID RESPECT

@G M97 This is what happened

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Jochen L.
Jochen L.

@G M97 OK Marty McFly where's your DeLorean :-)

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Isaiah McCain
Isaiah McCain

They should scrap the brz and make a new engine.

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TitusGarret14
TitusGarret14

Stephen Moore they already have a DIT with the current WRX and I haven’t seen many people having problems with rings

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George Zuniga
George Zuniga

But it will dissolve the lubricant in the cylinder! How about that.

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Basketcase
Basketcase

Di= gonna need walnut blasting

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AERoVALKYRiE
AERoVALKYRiE

still casted engine block. still sucks. give us forged internals already

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Jayjayyyo
Jayjayyyo

I need to put a FA24 motor in my 2020 Forester Sport. Seeing as someone was able to fit it in the Crosstrek, it has to be able to fit in mine right?

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lee shafer
lee shafer

do you like CVT belt Subarus?

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Stefan Wendel
Stefan Wendel

I wish Subaru's all future models are equipped with six-cylinder boxer engines. The constellation with the six-cylinder boxer engine basically means a vibration-free internal combustion piston engine. In addition, I think that the six-cylinder boxer engine creates a pleasant and harmonious sound (Porsche), which comes out of the exhaust pipe. The only disadvantage of a six-cylinder boxer engine compared to a four-cylinder boxer engine is a higher production cost.

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Adam P.
Adam P.

It's twice as good because it only leaks half as much oil.

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Guardrail
Guardrail

Are you Tom Brady's little brother?

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Aki Martiskainen
Aki Martiskainen

Still waiting for the honey dripping tool

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Ailison Rocha de Carvalho
Ailison Rocha de Carvalho

I got 50k in the pocket to spend in one of those new lil devils next year. :) If COVID doesn't break me, by the end of 2021 I will get my 2022 sub FA sti. :)

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Jey Doza
Jey Doza

Who here is coming from 2022 BRZ vids?

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Derek Someda
Derek Someda

this is the 2nd video tonight that says the crank hp is power to the wheels aka what you would measure on a dyno , both on 4 wheel drive cars. Someone may be disappointed when they find out 25% less on an actual 4 wheel drive dyno after all parasitic drive and rotational momentum losses.

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Denstoj Auto Centre
Denstoj Auto Centre

Let's just hope they fix the free-floating rocker issue!

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Shawn Warnick
Shawn Warnick

Has anyone tested the limits to the 2.4L yet? I would LOVE to se the sti get it because that means the outback can get all the same mods. Oh boi. A 350+ hp wagon would be sweet. Lower that bittie a good 2ins and put some sweet wheels on it. Oh gawd, 2020 outback "sti" here i come.

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kchingk
kchingk

what about the head gasket issues? did they resolve that?

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Sam S
Sam S

DI injection is old hat for many competitors at this point. Subaru is playing catch up and knew they had to do it as well for the fuel economy gains as well as the increased power it provides. What is the downside? Manufacturers are not very good at telling owners in their owners manuals that they need to clean their cylinder valves from carbon buildup. Some DI engines still spray both port and direct, and those don't have as much carbon buildup over time. In any case, to be safe, every 30,000 miles one should clean their valves with BG products or something similar to make sure the carbon does not build up and reduce engine power and performance.

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pablo rages
pablo rages

F A - F*cking AWESOME !

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Diego Amador
Diego Amador

Glad to see Tom DeLonge landed himself a nice gig out here on YouTube.

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Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

Dude I was thinking the same thing

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rgbigdog
rgbigdog

Not only the dual fuel injection system is good for cold starts but it also helps to reduce carbon build up on the intake valve.

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Tim Brown
Tim Brown

So what you’re basically saying is all the soccer moms out there right now the endurance testers....lol 😝 Subarus well they’re like giant Legos anyway trust me look what I drive there in my little picture, I daily drive the 3.6 flat six and I skated by all the dang oil issues, Head gasket issues ect..

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Recoil Rob
Recoil Rob

Great and entertaining video...but with one small nit pick about the new connecting rods being better able to handle the combustion pressures. Granted they're much beefier, but the combustion pressure isn't what makes a rod fail. Even the crappiest rod is able to withstand the compressive force the engine can make, the failures happen in two ways most of the time. At the end of the exhaust stroke the piston must be stopped then pulled back downward all by the cap and rod bolts.... the rest of the time there's force pushing the rod into the crank and the cap does little work. On an over-rev the rod bolts can stretch and this is why bearings spin when they're no longer being compressed within the big end. The other way is when the rod bends and this is often because the little end tightens up and won't allow the articulation needed to go up and down. Detonation can deform the piston pin bore and seize the pin which will destroy a pressed type pin, but a full floating type still can live because it will continue to move in the rod end...but this has limitations and when the pin can't turn any more the rod bends back and forth a few times until it snaps. Stretching a rod can let the piston hit the head which will tighten the little end and break the rod too. Big beefy rods have lots of room for big beefy bolts...which is good.

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Christian Bruner
Christian Bruner

Is it even a rally car. I didn't see any fog lights.

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nathan maxfield
nathan maxfield

so your telling me i could make my 2017 legacy go vroom with stustustustu sounds and make 350+ hp

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Pashak de Scilly
Pashak de Scilly

4:11 Direct fuel injection cools the cylinder walls... but spraying the cylinder walls with fuel will wash the oil film away. I think there may be an issue here.

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bill kill
bill kill

Effin hate direct fuel injection! Only good for fuel economy. Clogs after warranty. EJ's were unkillable

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Michael Harness
Michael Harness

I pay YouTube money so I DON’T HAVE TO WATCH COMMERCIALS.

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Clarence Hoover
Clarence Hoover

Great presentation. I really love my EJ engine (and the tone), but totally open to advancements that can provide reliable higher output.

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NJC 29
NJC 29

Planning to get one nextmonth before seeing this video, but now i'll wait for the new one. 😁 thanks to your video. Help me a lot.

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Frost
Frost

Subie fans: "Subaru needs to just give us a new engine, this engine is just so out dated." Subie fans when Subaru gives in: "I don't want that."

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Subaru Mechanic
Subaru Mechanic

All subarus share a variation on a similar block The ea series (pre ej) had a 1.6 and a 1.8 version and a 6 cylinder version of the ea called the ER27 then you had the ej series that had a range of sizes with the same block just cylinder bores ranging from 1.6L to 2.5L You can take turbo heads off of a 2008 wrx and put them on your 1.6L 1992 impreza block and it will run with an ecu flash or a dohc spec computer and the computor will think it's just business as usual lol. I have an 99 outback sport and it only ever came with a ej16/ej18/ej22 and i have a 2.5L ej253 in my outback sport running on the stock ecu because almost every subaru engine is the same as long as they have the same type of heads (sohc or dohc) Saying that the wrx and the Forester have the same motor is the same as it has always been. Just different internals, manifolds, heads, and other minor stuff.

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Hueyi Tecuani
Hueyi Tecuani

I just wish they can go back to looking like rally cars instead of my sisters nissan sentra

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Ready For Anything
Ready For Anything

Will they still use the crappy head gaskets?

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Ready For Anything
Ready For Anything

@Eskie Man I'll never buy another Subaru, nutsack

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Eskie Man
Eskie Man

You're living in the past, skippy.

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faekz
faekz

Bees????? Beadssss????? Buzz buzz buzz Michael...

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Adam K
Adam K

I feel like this is what Subaru would have done to combat the b58 in the bmw 340i

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Ultra AL
Ultra AL

The optimist in me wishes for $34,999 msrp. The pessimist in me expects $49,999++ msrp, 😖*GRUMBLING NOISES*😖

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Ultra AL
Ultra AL

If it has port inject as well, its going to keep the valves clean in the long run. Subaru better not cheap out on that.

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gtzgreatride
gtzgreatride

Subaru fans, welcome to GDI territory. Let's all rejoice with the issues of carbon

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Douglas Pattison
Douglas Pattison

2:30 400whp? That has to be bhp. Subaru makes these huge claims and deliveries short 100% of the time. The current STI is ~(245whp/240ftlb). Wait for the dyno numbers. That being said I'm not going to lie, I'll be first in line when they start accepting down payments.

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wrx3123
wrx3123

I had the accent as a loaner car and being stock it feels very quick instant torque

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Samson Mzera
Samson Mzera

Anyone else feels that 1 YouTube ad second is like 1.5 normal seconds

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Dathan Dyke
Dathan Dyke

Why did the motorcycle change colors

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John Burket
John Burket

The big question is this: can the automatic transmission handle the extra engine power?

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Ivan Lu
Ivan Lu

I really wish they would bring back the regular and original b2b

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lolgamerz
lolgamerz

Song at 5:06 ??

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nickacelvn
nickacelvn

All was going well until you said the "new engine" won't have the Subie exhaust note. WHATS THE POINT? No, it's over I have left the room.

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Curtiss Lichty
Curtiss Lichty

I like the video & Scubarus. BUT Today we're gonna talk about Subaru's new motor (basically a lengthy commercial...I hope we're getting a kick back from Subaru?) But 1st a word from our sponsor that's not Subaru. Ok back to your commercial that you actually chose & wanted to watch...now here comes the good part BAM ad. Times 3-6 throughout your lengthy video commercial. ;) Kinda wish he would have covered a lil bit on the oil & antifreeze channels etc / the old motor leak points like gaskets etc. They still need to make an SVX & STI/WRX lower longer wheelbase legacy wagon like the old rare Legacy Grand Tourer Spec-B. Does the FA24 have the same Catalytic converter setups as the old motors, cuz the price has tripled on the cats because all the old cars are starting to need new ones again....

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Zach Ury
Zach Ury

so you're saying I can get a 500hp crosstrek....

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Cyrus Lever
Cyrus Lever

The sti shoukd have had a 3.3liter h6 with a supercharger making about 425hp stock

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JikaInFamous
JikaInFamous

jaguar f types n frs have the same fuel injection setup

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shucky ducky
shucky ducky

This body style of subie has been thrown around and flaunted for years now 😂 they will never produce this body its a concept. Thats why im switching back to where i started. 400zx twin turbo here i come. My bugeye will be mine forever but im sick and tired of the ugly basic design of the new imprezzas. Ive waited for years for this body and been let down over and over. Whats the best we got the s209? Sorry subaru you cant produce what you tease with then im out asap!!!! 😠

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REX CONNER TTR
REX CONNER TTR

Subaru boxer engine is awesome

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Your Mother should of swallowed
Your Mother should of swallowed

If Subaru doesn't use Dual Injection DIT/Port true STI enthusiasts will stay away.

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Randall Price
Randall Price

Like Ford keeping flat head 8s for 35 years. This is still a maintenance issue engine. The transmission is still junk. Like Ford owners they deny the problems and give them to their kids or park them in the field next to the other Fords they couldn't fix. Definitely a branding issue like Starbucks and birkenstocks.

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Skeptical Skeksis
Skeptical Skeksis

I drive a 2015 STi with 404hp & 480ftq everyday. I have 30K miles on that time and it’s a peach. It’s as simple as a high-quality AOS equal length headers and a flex fuel kit. Those three mods alone will lower the chance of detonation significantly. E85 is the most important one of the three as it really cools down the cylinder walls every time the injector spray. That’s really why E85 is able to make so much power. Last but not least get a proper pro tune and you should be fine like me. I’m running 23.5 psi of boost and when I do my data logging by way of a Cobb acsessport I’m not seeing any knock. Knock on wood

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Skeptical Skeksis
Skeptical Skeksis

Whether it’s the FA’s bent connecting rods or the EJ’s piston ring-lands cracking, both fail due to premature fuel detonation. Which is directly related to cylinder temperature, poor fuel quality, lack of maintenance and in some cases people just not knowing how to drive a manual transmission; and would continually bog the engine. All of these things are the cause of knock in Subaru’s boxer engines. ( STi Ownership 101)

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V Sohn
V Sohn

I can't believe that I just wasted 13 minutes of my life listening to the repetitions of bigger, more pressure, stronger, more direct, higher speed, better, newer...

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bakerbrdz
bakerbrdz

Quick note, it’s not 400 to the wheels, it’s to the crank.

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Totototo Company
Totototo Company

Why you trying so hard to sound like someone 😂😂😭 ?

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ReelNewwt
ReelNewwt

But what’s it sound like

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Subarno Sinha
Subarno Sinha

An often made mistake is to consider Boxer and flat engines one and the same, when they aren't actually. In a flat engine (not a boxer), a pairs of pistons share a crankpin. In a true boxer engine, every piston has its own crankpin. The result of the boxer motor’s use of individual crankpins is that the pistons on either side move opposite one another, which helps to cancel out engine vibration. The back-and-forth motion of the pistons resembles the punches of a boxer, which is where the engine gets its name.

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Young Drew's Production
Young Drew's Production

This guy looks like Scotty Kilmer’s son

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SkinnierSteve
SkinnierSteve

I really hope they somehow find a way to keep UEL headers for the new STI's, because that sweet subie rumble is the best car sound to ever exist imo. There's no other sound like it. If the new ones don't have it, I'll stick to old ones.

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Zeus Ores
Zeus Ores

can the the new 86 have a turbo with this engine pls? 🥺

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Brian Hawk
Brian Hawk

They can fix the rear wheel bearings, I'm not getting another one. F this

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jomax clux
jomax clux

I can't help but think that this is the twilight of the ICE. By the time this one releases, the electric motor would have surpassed it.

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Gear 8883
Gear 8883

No more classic subie rumble?? 🥺 Ah, things we do for...MO POWAH BABEH!

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Stephen Lewis
Stephen Lewis

Looking forward to getting one of these in Europe, oh wait they're putting speed limiters in cars in 2022 nvm

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Nikko
Nikko

Aslong as the engine is around the same size as the one it's all good, cuz I'll definitely just take the new engine and put inside a 06 sti instead 😂

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Frost
Frost

The base models will still receive an upgrade, right?

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pablo rages
pablo rages

Doesn't everyone want free flowing head !

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MrMeoow91
MrMeoow91

Toyota always knows how to make engines more reliable.

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December
December

Cool a new design on the sti aye lol I’m still gonna do up my 02 wrx till I can afford a r33

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Troy V
Troy V

Boxer engines are actually flawed, ask any honest mechanic. Boxer engines generally have gasket leaks at 30K miles. GDI engines have excessive carbon buildup at 10K miles. This is the worst combination of engine designs. A new way to do planned obselesence.

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Angel Pabon
Angel Pabon

It's a very detailed video. Im a subaru fan with a 2013 wrx pumpkin limited edition. I like both the EJ and the FA, but another area that we need to look is the offset of the connecting rod. While the ones on the EJ are dead top center, the one in the FA sit in an angle. That puts pressure on a single area of the connecting rod. If you put both connecting rod next to each other, you can see the difference. Other than that everything else is great.

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K03sport
K03sport

no offense man, but I had to put on the captions to more or less understand what you were saying. I could mostly understand what you were saying, but you were saying it so fast, a lot of the words ran together.... 0.75x speed was too slow, so I used kept it at normal speed and just turned on captions. I normally watch donut.media stuff at 1.25x to get through the babble more quickly, but not this time. Nothing wrong with Subaru changing the motor in their "flagship" car as it way overdue. With as many issues the EJ (EJ25) had, I'm surprised it lasted this long. At least the FA24DIT got seat time in the Ascent so some of the minor hick-ups could be worked out; however, only time will tell how the extra power affects the engine.

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Nikil Naveel Chand
Nikil Naveel Chand

Explain about toyota sai 2010 engine

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Bradly Sullivan
Bradly Sullivan

Sick Wolverine snap back bro

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Larry Ganz
Larry Ganz

Just bought my wife an Ascent today - will she notice if I swap in my WRX FA20 in order to put her FA24 into my WRX LTD 6-speed? #savethestick

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blacsdad
blacsdad

It's great that they have a new engine but I still won't buy any of their vehicles if they still are using the same crappy CVT transmission with no low range.

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damagi123
damagi123

So many ads on this video it was impossible to watch. Plus you guys got to get rid of those keeps ads.

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Crikey Crikeys
Crikey Crikeys

Where do I get a 500 hp crosstrek?

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DorGreen1
DorGreen1

The 2022 STI looks like the GTA version of the Civic R

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Bob Saget
Bob Saget

Same unreliable boxer lol

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Mashaw Tucker
Mashaw Tucker

I love wen he dose bumper to bumper

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James Crawford
James Crawford

You run too many ads, including your own up-front built-in ad. Also, you come across kind of “clownish” by changing your t-shirts & hats during the video...again too much ad man, to be taken seriously for information content.

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Three-legged Crow
Three-legged Crow

Put it in a forester. Give us a manual option.

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Shawn Warnick
Shawn Warnick

Jeez, how are they gonna squeeze a whole 140hp out of that engine? Im assuming bigger intake, bigger fuel system, higher boost and premium fuel but i wonder how the internals wont nuke. It is a rather large displacement 4 cylinder. I would worry about the crankshaft handling 400hp

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mackgen
mackgen

Did you ever have a STI

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zero
zero

400hp comon now they can do better then that. Sigh smh 😒

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dhtsoaeds dhtnadi
dhtsoaeds dhtnadi

i just want a flat-6 diesel. dfi is a non-issue at cold-start on a diesel given you have glow plugs to preheat the chamber. more power for displacement (i'm a hauler not a sprinter). heavier parts last longer. etc. and oc a boxer doesn't have the balancing issues of a v or il.

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Omar Y
Omar Y

anyone else realize at the end of the video he gets cut off

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HDRhee
HDRhee

Sorry to be nitpicky, but is it 400 hp to the wheels or at the crank? If it's to the wheels that's way more than 90 more than the current STi.

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Unboxing Jobs
Unboxing Jobs

My kind of science 😜

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HunterXray
HunterXray

But will it sport a manual transmission?

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Free Speech
Free Speech

If you VALUE your money NEVER BUY ANY SUBARU! We own a Subaru high end model, nothing but trouble, it was NEVER used for pulling or off road or abused! Planned engineering with major defects and MAJOR cost repairs: HEAD GASKET blowups (1 ply head gasket), GAS FILTER located in gas tank (who does that?), FROZEN front differential dipstick (Why This is Happening?), ENGINE oil consumption (Subaru decided to make the tolerance of the engine parts to lower fuel economy, yes check it out) nightmares with SOYA BASED wire harness that rodents love to chew and eat (WE have to put Mothballs and Dryer Sheets all the time to prevent another electrical failure), JERKY transmission, CHEAP bad design SEATS that will hurt you, DEFECTIVE, dangerous STEERING Column defect from the company, they EVEN put the WATER PUMP in the ENGINE (even need to replace timing chain and sprockets when replace the water pump), SPARKPLUGS removal nightmares, SQUEAKY and CLUNK noises… if you don’t believe me read blogs, read comments of other REAL LIFE owners nightmares with SUBARU! Fortunately we don’t have the CVT transmission!!! Check also CLASS- ACTION LAWSUITS, and ALL the RECALLS! If that is not enough read Subaru recalling 500,000 vehicles for defective airbags, AGAIN or car shutting down while driving, or steering column failure while driving and much more…Let me just state that there are plenty of real life owners data and other data that backs up everything. These are not subjective comments, I remain objective and discussed the drawbacks of buying a SUBARU. Second, we do own a Subaru and will kept me from buying another one. Before taking anything personally, step back and remind yourself that you can check all these information’s yourself and be wiser before buying a new vehicle one day!

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Daniyar Suleimenov
Daniyar Suleimenov

Me want this. Guess I should start saving lunch money.

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Tetsuya Nomura
Tetsuya Nomura

you kinda look like tom brady but with more charisma

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Kellen Morse
Kellen Morse

first of all, the new fa24 isnt making 400 wheel. its making 400 CRANK. an EJ257 STI with stock turbo, bigger injectors, fuel pump, stock turbo, can easily make 400 at the crank. which equates to something like 300-340 wheel.

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Anthony Krieger
Anthony Krieger

The port injector is used to clean oil and carbon off the valve on startup. It's to avoid dropping a valve from carbon build up. It also lets you avoid incredibly expensive periodic maintenance for walnut blasting or fuel treatments. We get to have the advantage of adding cheap port injectors for performance applications instead of expensive direct injectors, but it's originally for reliability.

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